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New language learning idea

Posted by Linux_Penguin [send private reply] at April 17, 2001, 07:19:25 PM

I think it would be good to get people who have talent but dont know how to use it. What if someone would suggest a language then anyone who is intersted finds out as much as they can. Then everyone can share sources etc... After a language is selected a project could be done using the language of choice. Senior programmers could give advice and those of us who are just beginning could get some expierience under our belts.
Just a suggestion if anyone wants to really get into this e-mail me. We can come up with a better plan later.

e-mail -- the_lord_of_the_web@hotmail.com
SN -- draken204 (try not to bug me here)

Posted by gian [send private reply] at April 17, 2001, 10:00:33 PM

Put it this way, if I wanted to share sources, I would do it in a school programming class... as for senior programmer, if contributing is sitting on you ass, the tpu senior programmers contribute a lot.

Posted by Linux_Penguin [send private reply] at April 18, 2001, 12:12:40 PM

I was just trying to help. If anyone would modify the idea it would be appreciated. The idea of picking a language and learning it with everyone else is a good idea though right?

Posted by drdevil [send private reply] at April 18, 2001, 02:28:59 PM

Get a life Gian.

Posted by Psion [send private reply] at April 18, 2001, 02:37:46 PM

Penguin, I think it's a great idea. Can you elaborate more on the details?

Posted by gian [send private reply] at April 18, 2001, 03:23:02 PM

drdevil, you are considering "Sharing programming resources", and I need to get a life?!?!?! Hmmmm.

I had a thought though... maybe instead of "sharing sources" or whatever, we could start a code repository for that language, full of well written, well commented code and yes maybe resources such as where to get compilers etc.

Posted by Linux_Penguin [send private reply] at April 18, 2001, 05:28:37 PM

That is exactly what I was trying to get to. I was thinking that there could be a forum for it on TPU. As I said before the "senior programmers" could take an active role, not "sitting on their asses" I meant that they would be doing pretty much the same stuff but also helping out. We could take a vote or something to see what kind of use we would like to use the language for (like games, internet, etc...) After that was determined we could choose the appropriate stuff for whatever language was decided upon. Everyone who was intersted could download all of the things we said to. Guidlines or something like that could be posted on TPU. After everyone completed what was posted they could tell each other what they did differently. Thus we all learn about programming. If it sounds boring spice it up; I said that suggestions were open (and I am not looking for a fight like Hollman was.)

Posted by Psion [send private reply] at April 18, 2001, 06:57:47 PM

It sounds like you are basically proposing an online version of a traditional introductory programming class, with a specific language in mind.

Posted by Linux_Penguin [send private reply] at April 18, 2001, 07:36:04 PM

Is it a bad idea to have it like that then? I origionally proposed the idea because all of the projects that I have seen require at least 2 years expierience. There are people that proclaim that they have 7 years of expierience. People that come looking for a place to practice their new skills get discouraged and leave because they know that it will be to hard for them. If TPU did a thing of this nature it would be most benificial to everyone. Origionally I thought that it would not be like a class but I guess what I said in my last post does make it sound that way. If this idea were to be worked on I am sure that it wouldn't be boring like a class or a book. This would also not be as non-descriptive as a ten page tutorial. And what Gian said earlier is a good idea and I think that it would also help out.

Posted by RedX [send private reply] at April 19, 2001, 03:08:27 PM

That's not a bad idea. Some of the people here are quite experienced so those with less experience can learn a lot from them. But don't limite to just the language, IMHO those little things like datastructures and organising code and stuff, are more important to learn than syntax. These can be used on all languages and besides for syntax there are reference books. Yes, there are a lot tutorials around about how to create a BSP or how a linked list works, but how many really explain when to use them.


Posted by Linux_Penguin [send private reply] at April 19, 2001, 06:52:49 PM

Now it is getting better. If more people would share their ideas on this I bet it would come into fruition. If what was already said is enough for you guys then go ahead and use it. I think that a few more thoughts on the subject and it would be perfect.

Posted by Psion [send private reply] at April 19, 2001, 07:41:55 PM

TPU isn't a magical elitist organization. If you have a good idea, then I'll let you (and others who are willing to put time into it) manage a part of the site related to it. Interested members should e-mail me with details.

Posted by Linux_Penguin [send private reply] at April 19, 2001, 07:50:32 PM

Sounds good. I never expected for you to do everything for me :). That might have to wait a bit if I am to manage it though. If anyone is interested and wants to start right away then be my guest. I will join when possible. Sorry if it sounds like I am backing out on this but I am pretty busy with school right now. When someone(s) shows interest other than the few of us here then I will help try to help when I can. The idea could be put on hold for a little while though until everyone is on break or whatever and has more spare time to put into it.

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