Hey all
I might be (???) looing for a new language to learn...
I'm .very. fluent in VB, Had dabblings with C++, and some other misc stuff, but anyway, The biggest drawback in VB, IMHO, is that you need VB runtimes. and i'm ure i speak for everyone when i say: that sux0rz. I'm thinking Delphi, because i've seen some stuff produced with Delphi and it is clean, fast and powerful. I'm thinking delphi, because, at the moment, i'm thinking C++ is little complex, too much for me to get my hollow head around... and i've heard that is based on pascal (or something liek that) and it's like C++ and it is more owerful that VB(not saying much there...) Is there a free Delphi compiler\ide out there? and what are yor oppinions of Delphi vs. everyting? I don't want a heated debate, so play nice.

thanx

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Kylix if you run Linux. Stop the signature . Other RAD include I think C# and Delphi is free as a standard (personal) edition last time I looked.

Yes, if you do not plan on selling your software, then there's a Standard Edition (which is now called Personal Edition), just as vladimir wrote.

I program in Delphi for a living (together with PHP) and I must admit, that as long as you're not cross-developing, it's a really system. Powerful, easy to use, and fast (enough). :o)

It is also true that Pascal is on the way to C/C++, but they're not exactly similar. I'd consider it a journey; VB -> Pascal -> Delphi (Object Pascal) -> C/C++.
This is the path *I* took in programming, but there are other paths of course.

Oh yeah, and you'll probably get a bunch of "Learn {insert name of popular language here} instead!", but don't mind those, some people just can't accept that there are other programming languages in use than the one they're using. :o)

Delphi is ok, im not to fond of it (no reason why, i just personally dont like it). Once you know a good amount of VB (intermediate and advanced stuff, things like handling databases ect.) then you shoudn't have a problem with C++. My advice to you would be try c++ again and see where you get. If its still too hard, dont worry, go back and try delphi instead. With what you said, Delphi is indeed really just 'object pascal'.

Hmm... someone deleted my post, anyways, I suggested he try C++ or Java

@gian most probably ... blast him ... anyway.

There should be a RAD for Java , which would be good as it could be multi-platform. Anyone know one , it would be intresting to see.

hey codered.... i think someone here doesnt like u... or u just simply thought u posted a message.... LOL

its @gian the naughty little admin ... I knew it wa him all along. So is there a RAD for Java ?

Yes, I think gian goes back and deletes my old posts to bring down my post count cus he knows I am gaining on him LOL

vlad: There are plenty of RAD for Java. The best one IHMO is Borland's JBuilder (free edition avalaible) but a more complete free edition can be found from Sun. Sun ONE Studio is very up-to-date and totally free.

There are probably many other open-source IDE but I don't know them well.

I haven't deleted anyone's posts... Anyway, it's vladamir I have to watch out for, the little forum-whore.

Vlad seems you're in big trouble now.