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Posted by bhavin_7 [send private reply] at August 25, 2001, 02:32:40 PM

can i use msfront page for asp programs?if not then from where can i download the software for asp?i also want to know programing info. about asp.
thanx.

Posted by taubz [send private reply] at August 25, 2001, 03:27:35 PM

ASP is a scripting language that is run server-side, which means that it is processed by the web server that is dispatching the ASP page.

I don't know if FP has any special support for ASP, but any text editor will allow you to write ASP scripts. You'll need a web server that supports ASP, tho, which AFAIK is only a Microsoft thing... which is bad.

Instead, check out PHP (php.org?) or Perl (perl.org?). :)

- taubz

Posted by AngelOD [send private reply] at August 25, 2001, 03:36:08 PM

Also.. ASP isn't a language by itself, it's merely a framework that allows you to use different scripting languages to create dynamic homepages..

Anyway, yeah.. I suggest following Taubz' advice and try PHP, or Perl, or just anything that's not ASP, cuz it's generally evil. :o)

Posted by gian [send private reply] at August 25, 2001, 05:46:05 PM

Asp, if I'm not mistaken is a server-side encapsulation of VBscript and Javascript.

If you really have your heart set on doing ASP (Maybe because you already know javascript or vbscript) then at least use it on apache (apache32 if you're on windows... go to http://www.apache.org/) and if you want the ASP interpreter for apache go to http://www.apache-asp.org/, but it's not pure asp... it's like perl or something, I didn't spend much time looking at it.

Posted by buzgub [send private reply] at August 25, 2001, 10:37:13 PM

Okaaay.... MS frontpage contains _nothing_ for asp. A text editor is what you need for ASP. If you want to use ASP, you basically have a choice of 3 languages: Perl, with activeperl from htttp://www.activestate.com/, VBScript, which is just like visual basic, or JScript, which is javascript.

If you're running windows 9x, you'll need either PWS (from the nt4 option pack) if you want to use any of those three languages, or apache (as per gian's post) if you only want to use perl. If you're running win2k, then you probably have a copy of IIS 5 lying on your installation CD's.

If you didn't know this already, ASP is a way of putting code in web pages where the code runs on the server; because this makes it possible to slow down the server something shocking by creating a never ending loop, very few free servers allow you to use server-side scripting languages (ASP, PHP) or CGI stuff.

Posted by taubz [send private reply] at August 26, 2001, 12:26:19 AM

As if any of that hadn't already been said by me, Angel, or gian...

Posted by buzgub [send private reply] at August 26, 2001, 07:19:46 AM

<plaintive>But it was a handy summation</plaintive>

It all seemed a bit vague, and none of you three said anything about getting ASP stuff working if one wanted to use VBScript or JScript. In addition, the wording of the initial post ("download the software for ASP") suggested to me that this person might not have known that ASP code ran on the server.

Sorry if this sounds overly critical, but I'm just trying to explain myself.

Posted by taubz [send private reply] at August 26, 2001, 11:42:36 AM

> if one wanted to use VBScript or JScript

Okay, yes, that was a new point.

> this person might not have known that ASP code ran on the server

True, but I already explained that.

- taubz

Posted by buzgub [send private reply] at August 27, 2001, 01:00:23 AM

I don't think anyone else actually explicitly said 'asp is for web pages', though.

Posted by gian [send private reply] at August 27, 2001, 11:07:25 PM

It's a language that is interpreted by a _web_ server, I think that is an unspoken assumption.

Posted by buzgub [send private reply] at August 28, 2001, 12:58:38 AM

It seemed to me from the nature of the post that he might have been sufficiently new to the topic that he needed clarification; it was clarification *I* needed when I started in on ASP stuff. That was my sole reason for putting in that particular information.

Gian: It was an unspoken assumption that I thought he might not have picked up on.

Have I explained myself adequately?

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