Hi have been intrested in programming sense I can remember but No one would help me can some one help me out. PLEASE

Kraze

What are you asking?

Probably the URL of the "Quick start guides" :-)

RedX

Do you want to find a 'favourite language' try google diectory /:

See the "starting programming" guide on the front page.

Yeah thats good gian, but don't look at mine, you will only get cofused , Fortran is not a good , hhhggh , intresting and easy language , so I would not reccomend it to someone who has not read " The introduction to the theory of numbers" or similar...

Starting Progamming is a good guide can I add something to my earlier comment - There are many dialects of Basic don't try ro learn them , its too confusing and there is not enought documentation.

PYTHON!!! I called techtv one day and Leo Laporte said a good language to learn as a begginer was PYTHON. Just got o WWW.PYTHON.ORG. They have the interpreter/compiler and the documentation u need. Buying a book wouldn't hurt much either.

I saw an episode where Leo recommended Python to a caller, but while Python may be easy to start out with, in reality it isn't used very widely and it isn't as widely supported as other languages. I'd say the best choice would be C and/or C++. Here you have an abundance of *excellent* compilers available for little or nothing and lots of user support and help. Plus there are lots of books on the subject. You can't go wrong with C :)

You can, actually. Even after several years of programming with other languages, I couldn't get my head around c or c++. They're good languages to use, but trying to learn either straight off the bat is stupid. As for support, comp.lang.python, #python, and numerous mailing lists should *all* be able to answer whatever queries you might have. If queries get answered, then the support is good enough. AS to not being used in the real world, http://www.python.org/psa/Users.html is quite an impressive list of people in the real world using python.

C++ is a hard language ( C is easier ) but it rewards accordingly , althought I would never put it side to side with Fortran , it is certainly the *BEST* allpurpose language around. Books on it are easy to find , but learning itt is hard , some books wrongl go to GUI programming from the start. That makes it harder to learn the language itself. Turbo C is non-gi but provides the basics for learning the language also there is lcc32 which is a nice compiler ( with Fortran too ) . Try google directory !

If anyone wants to work at Google, learn Python. They require it of their developers.

Well, python is ok for begginners. I'm trying to learn C, but I can't seem top find a good enough compiler.

triplec1986 have you tried lcc ? Quick C , Visual C++ , Borland C++ , there are so many search the google directories for c it should be under compuing = > programming = > languages = > C = > Compilers

You shouldn't even need to search. Just get the appropriate gcc port to your platform. I'm assuming you're using Windows due to your newbieness (:P), so you probably want the port called mingw32.

vladmir_l: you got is backwards! C++ is a hard language, and
C is harder! And to those why say Python isn't widely used...
ever heard of Zope? It was writtein in Python. There are a lot
of people using Python around here (of course, I live in
Columbia, MD about an hour away from the home of Python Labs
so my view could be skewed). For a first language I would
reccommend Scheme. You should be able to find a copy of
"The Schemer's Guide" if you look hard enough. It is a bit
out of sync with the Scheme language (it covers r4rs and
r5rs is out). You may want to look into getting a copy of
"Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs" from the
MIT Press. It is the first semester Computer Science text
book for MIT. It probably isn't a good book to learn how to
code from because it is a very high level book. Also, try
reading http://www.scheme.com/tspl2d/index.html. That isn't
a CS book (just a book on Scheme). Try a book from
http://www.schemers.org/Documents/#all-texts. There are a few
general CS books in the list.

What the hell is zope?

Ok , I'll just stick with Fortran and C++ and Quick C ....

And ( I pressed the post button too soon ) ; These languages which people think are good to start off with "the unknown" languages , the , I find are very hard to use thre are no books on them , compilers have severe bugs and programs ( compilers too) seem not to run on all platforms for which the were built for.E is a good example , the compiler decided to not run on my Win ME.(I would like to get Linux , but I can nver get round to installing it, I have the Redhat proffes. CD's.) . All these languages teach you the wrong things , Python is a good language , but cannot be measured with Fortran or C++.

The wrong things? I'd first ask what you mean by that, and then I'd also ask how you're qualified to know what the correct things are. :-)

I have extracted the word wrong , pahaps incorrectly , it should be "wrong" as is , I was talking , not about Python , but Visual Basic. I am afraid that there are many languages that seem "easy" but afterwards you still pay the "price". I am not to judge , nor is anyone , that was just a commentand should be "wrong". Sorry if I misled you.

vLad

CodeRed: Zope, is cool... it's a sorta python based version of devlocus ;-)

www.zope.org

Zope is like portal then ?

Zope is a "Content Managment System" (corporate spin). Basically you put stuff in it and it manages them for you. It is like CVS for web sites, on crack. Unknown languages eh? What is Quick C then? Scheme is a very well known language. The _BEST_ textbook ever written (Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs) was written to use it! You can pick up Scheme in a few hours! Go to http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/dorai/t-y-scheme/t-y-scheme.html for a nice overview of Scheme (actually, it goes very in-depth, and it is something like 30 or 40 pages). Scheme has one basic syntax rule: Everything is either a list or an atom. Lists are made up of atoms. Boom. That is it. Hopefully you will be able to read my article on Scheme in the next issue of Free Software Magazine (it may end up split into two halves for issues 2/3 or 3/4).

ok ,do you know we are completely off the subject Kraze has not posted a single message , why don't me just asnwer his question (its lost somewhre at the top) ?

I offered help in my first message...also, the full text of "The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs" is available at http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/. If you are ok with math, then it would make an excellent way to get started with programming...just grab a Scheme system for your OS (Guile, MzScheme, MITScheme, etc) and read the book. It is a _very_ nice textbook (if you have $65 (or $35 for the paperback...only availabke outside the US/Canada!) buy it). Stupid MITPress and only offering the one I can't afford in America...grrr