I thinking of designing a game and wonderd what would people want so im asking everyone

A game where you raced an AI to write a computer program. And as a bonus if your code was correct and you finished first it would compile it when you were done.

That is an excellent idea... I would certainly go out and well, not buy, but use it!

Fair idea , but languages ? It has to have multiple languges or insert packs but that would be hard ! Otherwse no problem , I would certianly use , and if it was good buy such a game.

-Vlad.

Languages could be used as difficulty levels:
easy: Pascal
Medium: C++
Difficult: Asm
impossible: Qbasic

RedX

More like:

Mega Easy: HTML
Easy: BASIC
Medium: Pascal
Hard: C++ \ C \ Fortran
Very Hard: Assembler
Impossible: Java

java is not impossible

QBasic would make a good very hard difficulty setting, it would be next to impossible to do moderate to complex tasks with QBasic

Just say QBASIC is crappy for normal programming...But for other tasks ( have to admit ) it is easy. Not everyone in the world actually ENJOYS programming , so its for those people.

If you don't enjoy programming why the hell did you buy the game?

Just so we set the record straight, html is NOT a programming or scripting language... it is a markup language.

Oh, and java is not impossible... Once you've learnt C, then Java is just another step up.

And I wouldn't put Fortran in the "Hard" catagory...

Its not hard its close to impossible Fortran ,due to being sop powerful.

-VLad

"Its not hard its close to impossible Fortran ,due to being sop powerful." <-- This makes no grammatical sense.

yeah I suppose it doesnt , but writing a HTML page , when you see a preview, against the computer is possible. THis would be easier to make than C\C++\Java\QBasic and that lot , I think we are getting off the point Wspeedman , probably doesnt know half the lanuges. Its just going off the line of an acomplishable idea.

-Vlad

I'm not sure that post made any more sense that the sentence gian pointed out :-))

Suppose so - I might make an unscrammbler so other people can read what I write :) .

-Vlad

Or learn to write how people read!

A fine idea Setherd123 I respect yuo and I will undertake it.

-Vlad

"A fine idea Setherd123 I respect yuo and I will undertake it. "


Psion, we need a spell checker.

vladimir: for you to write an unscrambler your cryptic messaegs would need to be in some scrambled, *consistent* code, i don't think your posts pass :-))

Makes me wonder how well you all would write in Dutch.
:)

RedX

Maybe so , I preffer pen and paper - then no mistakes occur. :)

-Vlad

Russian is very different to English , gramatically they are miles apart. There are even more differences in the actual layout of the text ( suppose that to is grammar ).It is much more far away than Eng from Dutch.
-Vlad

How do no mistakes occur with pen & paper? If you can spell it on paper, then you can type it....

Completely incorrect. Gian

How so? I fail to understand how that could help you.... at least on a computer you get multiple tries at spelling a word correctly... on paper, you've screwed up, and that's it...

Gian , you fail to see from your point of view , your hands are much more better than keyboard+hands , they can express emotions and more thorught writing. Computer writing is dead , it has 0 emtions. I like expressingm y emtions thorught handwiritng. !

I can type better, faster and more accurately than I can write with a pencil or pen.

You dont get it do you , computers are thick compared to any of us , humans , paper expresse emotions. Thats why people word process - tohide heir emotions , make the text lifeless , only writers can make typed text come to life , and that is a skill much more respected than anything.Gian , admit computers are lifelless. So wordprocessing is bad - it hides you emotions , not all of us are skilled writers.Thaat is the real reason.

-Vlad

PS And grammar to is much more better expressed on pare as it is also not emotionless... Too many factors for computers to handle ...

I fail to see what you are saying.... are you talking about calligraphy? Or that the secrets of the universe are hidden in the slant of your A?

The computer doesn't need to understand what I'm typing... nor does a peice of paper....

No , you still don't get , how computerised are you ? A human writes on paper , he is more connected wit the paper . He think constantly about what he writes. The chances of missing and hitting the wrong key are , well, nill. Your hand can most proably after some training and with the right instrument write faster. I see why you don't understand , what does grammar have to do with all this ? I dont know about you , but when I compare things written om paper and computer. First time , no proof read. THe computer one has this dead feel to it , when nothing is linked , blocks just fly at you. Whilst the one on paper is fluent , well papragraphed , good rammar , the text flows at you like an ocean.
Maybe its just me , but you dont see people typing up programs straight onto a computer... Because we are not in as much control over the computer.

-Vlad

An writer never writes a complete book in one go either.
The reason one can write more correctly on paper than on PC is that he's used to the forms of written words. There were many times I typed a word and I was not sure if it was right, simply because the shape is different. But this is all a matter of learning the shapes of the words. In essence there is no difference between writing with pen and paper or typing on a computer. Both are utils made by man. The emotional connection with paper and pen comes from the fact that you were thaught first to write with pens and probably did that for most of your life. I personaly write better on PC, because my handwriting is as good as that of a doctor.
Sure you can alter the way you form your letters to show some emotion, but you can do the same thing on a PC, that's where all those letter types are for.

RedX

I have handwriting that would make the average doctor shreak and run away. I am very computerised, and I believe that I have complete control over my computer. You are applying human qualities to something that has none. Oh, and I do indeed, type programs straight up on the computer. Only in exams have I ever written actualy code on paper. I have only ever planned out larger programs on paper. I loath pen and paper.

Well suppose that is a way , but not for most people.We too.

-Vlad

Me not We :)

I don't think you are in any position to be the decisive voice in this.

Who is , ( philoshopical question ). For me it works that way for you another = result from this evidence is that it varies. But for how many thousands of years have humans been using writing ( or drwaings ) to communicate and leave a mark. Stone Age people did'nt leave us 4gb worth of jpeg's about heir culture. Computers are crude devices.

Suppose you are right , I also am very computerised. So I believe in both :).

Anyway before this gets out of hand lets leave this....

Computers are crude?

You've gone and done it now....

How is a computer anymore crude than a pen and paper or chisel and rock?

Hey guys! Well, I'm a newbie in the C/C++ programming world. Well, I have a few questions. Where can I get info on creating Videogame character models(you know, code)? Such as, Final Fantasy X, Max Payne, Tomb Raider. I bought the Game Programming Starter Kit 4.0 by Macmillan Software to get me started, but I have no idea on how to use it. Can you help me out? Thanx in advance.

May I suggest posting this as a new thread?

Gian , computers are crude because , they are featurless. They are not natural , pen and paper are more natural way. Anyway , this is a very tough question on which many people disagree. Look , this is a matter best left to philosophers :). Anyway about C++\C and Macmillan programming kit , may I suggest you get to know C++ first , try a few console programs ( a lot ) and then move up to games. Anyway Gian , I realised that I need to get a new keyboard , I typed this one on my mums keyboard at her workplace and its much better.

And start with simple games, with sprites. Using 3D models in your first game is a garanty for failure. 3D games are difficult. Anyone who ever wrote one succesfuly, had many years experience with more simple games.

RedX

I agree RedX , some people think they can leap to creating great games , they are wrong ...

I just have to add my 2c here. How is a computer more featureless than pen&paper? Surely they are the same. If you don't know how to use a computer, then it most certainly is featureless for you. Ditto if you don't know how to write. Someone who can't write would find a pen&paper just as useless.

I also completely disagree with the sentiment that you can express more emotions on paper. Surely, it's not the way the words are written, but the words themselves? How is "I love you" written on paper expressing more emotion than "I love you" typed in an email to a good friend?

Well - it varies from person to person. I am legible on both computer and paper :) , better on PC , but I preffer paper ( partially because my printer is gone... crazy ).

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