All of the people here think they are good hacking hotmail which is a like picking up a penny. Hacking Yahoo now that is hard. I bet none of you can. I have added some stuff to the username: designated_masher2000 and if you can hack into the account designated_masher2000 put the password as the post and I will know you can hack.

I wont even asnwer piss off (sorry , my emotions) , this forum is bad enought without crackers.

Someone remove this sod away from us intelligent people , please.

-Vlad

I know i can hack without your approval. I simply need to insert 'Linux Mandrake Source CD 2' into my cdrom drive and i can hack all i want. I would imagine cracking (that is what your talking about, not hacking) a large site and email provider such as hotmail would be dificult anyway. If its not, why is the site not down 24/7? and if it was down constantly, i would blame hotmail cuz they are running windows servers. Yahoo are running a combo of linux and BSD servers last time i heard. Besides, crackers are lame. I bet your not even a cracker, your prob just a lame ass script kiddie. At least crackers have to learn something first. (im not defending crackers, they are just better than script kiddies). Anyway: um no

Hotmail have FreeBSD aswell ... ScriptieKidz and hacker really get on my nerves !!! hotmail have clever staff anyway.-

-Vlad the dodo

Ya you guys are right this guy hacked into my account or something. I wanted to get my account back so I said that stuff. Plus I just put I lived somewhere else when I signed up so no one could get my password but then he came along. Sorry bout that. I just wanted my account back because I play the fantasy baseball thing on yahoo.

Do you guys know how I could get my account back???

funny ... why do you bug people off... get a new yahoo account ?

-Vlad the dodo

Have you tried the friendly people at yahoo.com? If you explain the situation, they might help. But don't get your hopes up yet.

RedX

well i tried talking to yahoo except they didn't e-mail me back yet. But thanks for recomending it.

There are various cracking tools freely avaliable on the internet, such as Jack the Ripper and Cracker Jack, but I dont know if they would help in your situation, or if they would even work with Yahoo. I think they're more for shadowed passwords or something...

I've had a look at some cracking tools for linux they were on the cover of Linux Format this month , some of them are complex things. I would never use them for something rather then testing it on myself but www.astalavista.box.sk is the place to get them.

-Vlad

Another good site is http://neworder.box.sk . It probly wouldnt be to hard to find some texts on how to use cracking tools. I think there is like a cracking manual out too...

* gian warms up the IPOJ over a furnace in preparation for his meeting with FatalDragon.

Enough about cracking. Even giving advice to people who (supposidly) have a legitimate reason for doing it is still bad.

OkayDokay!

"Hotmail have FreeBSD aswell"

Hotmail is run by Microsoft, they would use some form of windows...

That's what one would think, but http://www.wehavethewayout.com ran on FreeBSD originally, then hours after the story broke they quickly switched it to Win2k :-)

Such a system as Hotmail could not have all Win2k as it would be a painful task. They are not stupid , even if they are run by Microsoft , people are after solutions and for that purpsose linux/freebsd/unix is the solution. Its like for gaming PC's THE solution is Windows XP and for word processing PC's Windows Me/98. Its a fact solutions ...

-Vlad

and for secure server solutions its unix/BSD/Linux. For desktop systems its Windows. All systems have some place.

Windows! Secure! Same sentence! Without not! I'm sorry, you just violated english grammar rules :)

Windows is a GOOD operating system , especially NT. Althought it does not provide the sort of professional enviroment as many unixes do it still is and will be used by the majority ( ever increasing ) of people who do computing. Unix was not designed to be used by begginers and this would breach its morals. There is only so far that linux/unix can be simplified - push the barrier too far you lose what is linux/unix.

-Vlad

But GNU is inherently more stable and secure than windows! I don't know how we are even making these comparisons!

But its not up to us to decide most people who use computers dont give a **** about GNU or Linux and thats a fact. Windows is secure enought if measured by their measurement. I think its insecure but Windows is still very secure for ordinary users ...

-Vlad

Yes, but if we were to put all the operating systems in the world on a great big security continuum, then Windows would be near the bottom, and GNU would be near the top (along with GazOS (-:).

Yeah ... suppose so.


-Vlad ( I just dont want another forum war with you ! )

Well.. I used to chat with someone who worked for MS, and according to him all servers ran Win2k Server, and were quite stable. However, seeing there are people that constantly bomb MS' servers, they had to protect themselves, and some BSD boxes were set up as firewalls for the other systems.

Now I have no proof of this being true, but it's what I've heard, and it sound plausible. Would mean they still officially used Windows, but were protected by BSD boxes..

On another note.. I totally agree with both gian and vladimir. Windows isn't secure when compared to the leading GNU systems, but it's secure enough for the average user, and is very user-friendly, therefore people will continue to use it. The newer Linux dists, or some of them at least, attempts the user-friendly approach, but people still has problems learning how to do lots of stuff, not to mention that many of them has to give up the software they normally use and have gotten used to.

Personally, I solve this the same way as a lot of others.. I dual boot between Windows and Linux.

My system needs to be secured a bit more...

[Tue Jul 9 11:19:49 2002] [error] [client 216.9.67.18] File does not exist: /va
r/www/scripts/..%5c%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe
[Tue Jul 9 17:15:56 2002] [error] [client 203.71.190.1] Client sent malformed H
ost header
[Tue Jul 9 18:13:51 2002] [error] [client 203.71.190.1] Client sent malformed H
ost header
[Tue Jul 9 20:34:49 2002] [error] [client 151.196.183.127] File does not exist:
/var/www/scripts/root.exe
[Tue Jul 9 20:34:57 2002] [error] [client 151.196.183.127] File does not exist:
/var/www/MSADC/root.exe
[Tue Jul 9 20:35:06 2002] [error] [client 151.196.183.127] File does not exist:
/var/www/c/winnt/system32/cmd.exe
[Tue Jul 9 20:35:14 2002] [error] [client 151.196.183.127] File does not exist:
/var/www/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe
[Tue Jul 9 20:35:22 2002] [error] [client 151.196.183.127] File does not exist:
/var/www/scripts/..%5c../winnt/system32/cmd.exe

I think I'll report this as a TOS violation to verizon.net...(the person did this over and over for about 3 hours ... damn scr1pt k1dd13z using up my precious bandwidth by attacking a server that isn't even supposed to be open for public usage!)

That's not necessarily a script kiddie.. It looks a *LOT* like the attack the Code Red trojan performs to penetrate IIS servers that hasn't yet been updated.

I don't think it's CodeRed. CodeRed was sending buncha cryptic stuff to my Apache server. Something like "GET index.ida?AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA[...]AAAAAlkJL3;lkj1234klj[...]"

But this is nonetheless an IIS worm. Totally inoffensive to Apache but sadly unavoidable for all servers.

GET default.ida?[i forget]=NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN(a large number of N's to over a buffer I guess). I think I was being scanned by a script kiddie looking for NT root exploits.

I did nothing of the sort Neumann.