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486 begginer question
Posted by vladimir_l [send private reply] at October 26, 2002, 06:05:09 AM
I have a 486 i intend to use for work ( e.g. Fortran , MathCad , Maple ) and i need it to work. It has 170HD nothing alse and a floppy its an ALPHA DIGITAL DEC PCv 486DX. Does anyone know where and what type the memory ( ram ) and the HD need to be also if i want to run RedHat 7.1 on it are there any really cheap 28.8k or 56k modems and what CD-ROM is cheapest - THANKS !!!
-Vlad
Posted by vladimir_l [send private reply] at October 26, 2002, 06:06:36 AM
Well no I might run RedHat 7.1 & Windows 3.1 on it ... obviosuly console only linux ( no X ) i am just thinking are there any opensource tools that are console to replace mathcad and maple or maybe i'll just stick with fortran and latex ... mmm
Posted by gian [send private reply] at October 26, 2002, 07:15:37 AM
I'm not sure what maple or mathcad are entirely, but I suspect you want to look into something like GNU Octave.
Posted by RedX [send private reply] at October 26, 2002, 08:03:31 AM
Aint easy to get memory for those these days. You'll need 72pin SIMMS for it. You could find those on second hand computer markets and the like or if you're extremely lucky you might (but probably not) find a few left overs at a local computer shop.
When you're at it, get a bigger HD too. (A few years ago (when a 1GB HD was still *big*) I bought a 200mb HD for less than $5 on such a market.)
Posted by vladimir_l [send private reply] at October 26, 2002, 08:07:50 AM
Thanks , well i'll try , i suppose a 500mb will suit me , i'll have a look on the ebay.co.uk store too thanks RedX
Posted by ItinitI [send private reply] at October 26, 2002, 09:24:35 AM
Hey Vlad! good to see you back!
Posted by vladimir_l [send private reply] at October 26, 2002, 11:51:36 AM
Back , well yes , i don think 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of people @ TPU would agree...
Posted by unknown_lamer [send private reply] at October 26, 2002, 11:50:09 PM
Welcome back, I guess math got boring or something...anyway, don't put RedHat 7.1 on there. Get something like Slack for a small system like that and only install what you absolutely need. Use a WM like WindowMaker (with all the cool stuff off), SWM (swm.sf.net), or even ratpoison.
As for a modem, any ISA modem should work. Look around and you should be able to find a V.34 ISA modem for a few [insert local currency]. You should also be able to use any sized hard drive you want because Linux doesn't use the BIOS for accessing the drive. Just make sure to make a 15 MB or so boot partition at the very beggining of the drive or IIRC bad things will happen because of your old BIOS. Any old ATAPAI cdrom should work; if the BIOS can't detect it you'll have to tell Linux where it is with something like "hdc=cdrom" appended to the boot options. I'm a bit confused about the model; Alpha DEC 486? When did DEC ever make machines with Intel processors? Are you sure this isn't an old Alpha workstation (that would ROCK). Since you have a math coprocessor you should get decent performance out of the machine as long as you don't need stuff like Mozilla (use dillo instead, etc.). GNU Octave should perform reasonably well.
Posted by vladimir_l [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 07:08:31 AM
Thanks , but i just booted small linux onto it , i wont need anything alse like a modem as i have an old laptop win 2000 586 hahhahaha .... well i'm not going into the computer trap again i'm just fixing a f77 and TeX coputer.
Posted by ItinitI [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 01:35:51 PM
Is Maple and MathCad GNU or free or have free versions? If so, where can I download them?
Posted by vladimir_l [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 02:38:11 PM
Maple and Matchad are mathematics software they are commercial.
Posted by RedX [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 03:25:56 PM
So look at your local software store. (See, I didn't mention Kazaa.)
Posted by ItinitI [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 04:19:59 PM
Oh, okee. So, what are they used for? Making equations?
Posted by unknown_lamer [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 05:28:09 PM
You could also tey using GNU Octave to replace MathCAD. I don't know about maple, it is a symbolic algebra package, right?
Posted by vladimir_l [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 05:46:33 PM
If you lived in the UK i would have copied you my copied disk(s) from many unis.... but here we are KaZaa ...
Posted by vladimir_l [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 05:47:22 PM
ItinitI , equations well sort - of - very - lightly put , yes ...
Posted by gian [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 05:49:19 PM
Vlad, is it similar to matlab or mathematica? If so, Octave will do the trick.
Posted by vladimir_l [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 06:11:22 PM
yeah octave it is but i'm gonan wait till i can get a bigger hd and a cdrom and 2 more memory sticks and a modem to boot redhat 7 on it it'll wait a while .... 5 weeks ...
Posted by Neumann [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 06:22:15 PM
I used something called SciLab as a remplacement to MatLab in Linux. It's not GNU but it's free and quite good.
Posted by vladimir_l [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 06:39:39 PM
Know where i can get it ?
Posted by unknown_lamer [send private reply] at October 27, 2002, 07:02:48 PM
http://www-rocq.inria.fr/scilab/
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