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Who here Programs with an Apple?

Posted by ken [send private reply] at December 14, 2002, 06:52:08 PM

I was just wondering if anyone here does programming on an Apple Computer, if if so what kind of Apple, OS, and language?

Posted by unknown_lamer [send private reply] at December 14, 2002, 09:34:27 PM

I do POSIX programming. My programs just happen to work at school on the OS X machine.

Posted by CodeRed [send private reply] at December 15, 2002, 12:41:06 AM

Apple? Are those things still around?

Posted by CViper [send private reply] at December 15, 2002, 05:44:51 AM

Used to do some programming on MacOS 8... haven't done anything recently though.

Posted by ItinitI [send private reply] at December 15, 2002, 04:49:49 PM

Yeah, Apple is still around! They have some very nice note books. Their CPU speeds are lesser than AMD/Intel, but still, fast enough. OS X looks vey nice as well.

Posted by rnd [send private reply] at December 15, 2002, 05:35:49 PM

You can't really compare cpu speeds diectly between different architectures. It's like how AMD has to give all their new Athlons those + numbers (1700+, 2200+, whatever) so that Joe Average Idiot doesn't think Intel chips are way better because they have "more mega-hurts".

Similar thing with the G3/G4, although granted x86 seems to have pulled ahead for the last little while.

Oh, and to stay relatively on topic, I played around with the native Cocoa interface on OS X on my laptop a while back. It uses Objective C, which is supposed to be C with classes done properly.

Posted by ken [send private reply] at December 19, 2002, 07:01:37 PM

I hate how intel sets there MHz higher. I was just wondering because I might switch to a Apple iBook and do my programming there.

Posted by gian [send private reply] at December 19, 2002, 07:57:23 PM

They don't "set" them... MHz is just a measure of how many cycles the processor is doing.

Posted by CodeRed [send private reply] at December 19, 2002, 10:45:08 PM

A Hert is a universal measurement for one cycle per second, computers operate at billions of (clock) cycles per second (GHZ), each clock cycle a certain amount of work is done by the CPU and every other component in your system, the difference between the Apple and PC architectures is the work done by the processor per clock cycle. If more work is done per clock on one system than on another, that systems relative speed will be faster at a slower clock speed. However, it is much more complicated than that, even if you have two systems at equal clock speeds the one doing less work per clock could still outperform the other. The absolute performance of a computer system is dependant on many factors, such as the speed and bandwidth of the data buses and that of data storage devices (IE RAM, Hard Disk), and the efficiency of the CPU (IE data prefetching, caching, etc.)

Posted by mop [send private reply] at December 19, 2002, 11:48:19 PM

yes, bus speed is horribly under rated, I think all the attention is turned towards the CPU speed because that is what average joe user looks for (it being the "central part", and how "good" it is appearing to easily be expressed with a comparable number).

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