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Posted by ken [send private reply] at December 25, 2002, 01:49:04 AM

I've decided I might switch to an Apple (iBook). I want to learn some basic programming languages after I learn PHP and FLASH 5 better. Can I do this with the Apple fairly easy? Are there many downloads?

Posted by Qubit [send private reply] at December 25, 2002, 03:31:05 PM

i'm sure browsing around macromedia you'll find plentiful Apple products. And with the myriad of projects aiming to port popular Linux softwares to OSX, I doubt you will have much problem :)

Posted by infryq [send private reply] at December 26, 2002, 03:26:52 PM

As long as you're getting one of the newer machines(ie anything not beige; iBook is good), you'll be fine. OS X will let you do RealBasic, C/C++/Objective C, Java, perl, shell scripting, etc.

In terms of downloads:
I'm not entirely sure what the generic installation comes with... I'm used to getting a Developer Tools CD in the mail on a regular basis. But if the unix tools aren't there already, you can definitely find them online(free) on Apple's site. [ http://developer.apple.com/macosx/gettingstarted/ ] Apple's Developer tools includes an IDE called Project Builder, as well as the standard command line tools like gcc. You can also install a fair number of tools from the unix/BSD community, if Apple or Darwin doesn't have the one you're looking for.

Posted by mop [send private reply] at December 26, 2002, 04:45:10 PM

hmm, OS X was more unixy then I thought.

Posted by ken [send private reply] at December 27, 2002, 11:49:12 PM

If my parents decide not to let me switch to an Apple, I'll have to get a PC. Of course I'll switch OS to Linux. Every Linux switcher I've heard from seems very happy with it. I was thinking about Mandrake. I'm tired of this Windows thing always screwing up, it can't even shutdown properly. I'm worried that I can't install Linux though because I'm not the most computer savvy person. Is it easy? I've never even had a chance to install Windows myself and I'm looking for a chance to learn. It's sad, but hey, I've got to learn somewhere.

Posted by gian [send private reply] at December 28, 2002, 12:40:43 AM

I would recommend Mandrake (*cough*) or Redhat for ease of use. My personal favourate is Redhat.

Posted by ken [send private reply] at December 29, 2002, 08:21:21 PM

I was checking on downloads that I could get if I get an Apple computer. I noticed that Python gives a model you must build your self from a source. Is this hard for a person just starting to learn PHP? Also, the PHP.net doesn't have many downloads either, it leads to a site that has instructions to build your own I think. Any links to sites that do have installation for PHP or Python would help, or just simply easy instructions on how to build one.

Posted by mop [send private reply] at December 29, 2002, 09:39:58 PM

They probably have windows binaries somewhere.
Welcome to the world of open source.

Posted by buzgub [send private reply] at January 07, 2003, 07:26:52 PM

I believe python is packaged with the recent OS X versions (in particular, 10.2). I understand PHP is also configured with the apache webserver provided by OS X.

I don't even have a mac. This is just what I've heard.

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