hi, i know c++ and I know a little about Windows Programming(by little i mean just what is covered in win game prog for dummies. Anyway, i got Win game programming fro dummies from the library, but it was missing the cd. So, I didn't understand everything (in fact nothing after windows programming-directx stumped me) so is there anyone who knows a site where i can get some really good directx tutorials or where i can find everthing that was on the Wwin GAme Programming for Dummies CD?

As for some good Window tutorials check out www.GameTutorials.com -- There only 2 DirectX tutorials for now, but more will come :)

grrrrrrrr...

with tactics like these you already know the site is shitty so don't go!

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Hey Cobbs -- If I was to recommend http://nehe.gamedev.net/ for good OpenGL tutorials, would that site be shitty as well? The fact is our site is new so people might not of heard of it yet. The reason we made it is to have the ABSOLUTE BEST tutorials on the Internet -- I'm not going to answer a question and lie about what I think --

to theTutor and Cobbs, can you have your fight about his website somewhere else, I'm trying to learn something. Maybe you should put a post that says the www.gametutorials.com fight "Starring Cobbs and theTutor!!!!"
By the way, Tutor man, your site <b>sucks</b>, ever heard of putting the tutorials online instead of having to take 10 mins to download them unzip the file and open the file<i>s</i> and finally read them?

The average tutorial size zipped is 5K -- That's too bad if you wait 10 minutes to download 5K -- And hey if you don't like the tutorials that way, what can I say? We don't think reading off a screen is as benefical as having the source code that does whatever a particular tutorial is covering, thus we don't do it that way --

I was exagerating when I said 10 mins. but, you could put the actual tutorial online and let us download the source code .

TheTutor - if you were to recommend nehe.gamedev.net it would be perfectly fine, because you're not Jeff Molofee as far as i know.

also -- one plug is enough, which is what i think people have a problem with. We *really* don't want to be force-fed advertising for your site, no matter how good it is or how much work you've put into it. answering every beginner's How do I... question with a link to your site gets old. Really fast.

Anyway.... some of that code is SO poorly formatted, that even with syntax highlighting, it is still painful to try and read. I think that there is many things that could be improved, so my point is: stop plugging your site as the greatest on the planet, because although I admire your effort, it really could be better.

Indeed.. Starting with the actual design of the page..

- You do *not* make your links change in the way they do (turning bold on mouseover).
- The page is also waaay too colourful to look "pro".
- The listings of tutorials are horrible.. Put them in tables instead.
- And why don't let the user choose whether they want to view the tutorial on site, or download it? Doesn't take that much extra.

Then there's the actual tutorials.. They have badly formatted code, and doesn't really help much (atleast I didn't get much out of the ones I tried).

Well thanks for the comments :)

infryg -- I only answer questions like that if they're general. Like, "Where can I get some C++ tutorials?" If somebody asked, "How do I get at the HINSTANCE in the WinProc?" I'd just answer that question.

gian and AngleOD -- I'd love to look into fixing whatever formatting issues you may have but since you don't mention the tutorial(s) name OR the compiler/editor you used to view 'em, it is kinda hard.

As for changing with links -- I happen to like it, I didn't know if you were making a web site you had to follow everyone elses lead -- How dare someone try and be original!

eh. the thing with the boldage is, most fonts have a higher kerning and character width when you bold them, and the links expand. you get the ripple effect when you rollover, and it's distracting at the very least. a color change, or adding an underline, can often give the same emphasis to the eye, while keeping the reader's focus on the content, not the visual effects. sorry to burst your bubble but it's really not all that original, it's a fairly common effect ... just most web designers stay away from the bold effect. cascadia community college's website does it too, bugs the heck out of me. check out the site a http://www.cascadia.ctc.edu -- rollover the link that says "annual schedule of classes" -- the text expansion screws with the layout, i don't know what possessed them to have it do that. anyhow. it's really entirely your choice, you're the one with your hand in the code, we're just your user base.

oh, and it doesn't really matter whether you're just responding to a general question -- it doesn't change the fact that you've succeeded in making a broken record out of your posts. sorry.

Also, the text that's non-link doesn't display too well in opera. Though I've seen the same behaviour at other sites too, which leads me to believe it might be opera's 'problem', it still isn't very easy to view it =]