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Where could I find an OLD Linux release?
Posted by FatalDragon [send private reply] at May 07, 2002, 02:20:29 PM I have an old computer that is 100MHz w/ 32MB RAM, so I put RedHat Linux 7.0 on it. The computer still worked, and I liked the Linux, but it ran EXTREEMLY choppy and slow. So I was thinking that if I could find an older release of RedHat, Mandrake, ect that it might run faster on the computer. When I say older Linux release, I mean a release form aroun '97, '98. So does any one know of a place I could download, or buy an older release, or if it would even run faster?
Posted by FatalDragon [send private reply] at May 07, 2002, 02:40:59 PM And also, is "Blue Katana Linux" the exact same as Mandrake?
Posted by metamorphic [send private reply] at May 07, 2002, 03:45:35 PM Could try Debian without X win (AKA a la command line mode)
Posted by vladimir_l [send private reply] at May 07, 2002, 04:04:23 PM Yeah Debian 2.2r5 works OK if you live in UK you can get it from www.cheeplinux.co.uk for ý12.99( 7 cd version ) or you can download it.If you have above 286 it will run.You could probably get X aswell ( I dont run X at all on Debian ).You could also try Beehive linux or some old version of Slackware ( like 4.0 , I got the cdroms of some man for free so they should be hard to get , or you could download it).
Certainly Debian is har to install and run , it took me 10 times to learn from past mistakes.
Posted by metamorphic [send private reply] at May 07, 2002, 04:12:33 PM go to the linux distro list http://ldl.sourceforge.net/index.php3?action=3
and see all the distro's there are some good 'mini' distro's on offer.
Posted by unknown_lamer [send private reply] at May 07, 2002, 05:25:34 PM Um, the Linux kernel can't run on a 286...it needs a 32-bit processor and the 286 is a 16-bit processor so...
Posted by FatalDragon [send private reply] at May 07, 2002, 05:59:54 PM Will things like the GCC still work if you dont install X Windows? If not, are there any compilers, ect that will run with out X Windows?
Because Im installing Slackware 7.0 at the moment, I had tried to install it before but it didnt work, so Im tring again...
Posted by Psion [send private reply] at May 07, 2002, 06:41:38 PM I've never heard of a compiler that requires XWindows.
Posted by gian [send private reply] at May 07, 2002, 07:08:06 PM Just use a minimal window manager (such as Wmaker) instead of Gnome or Kde.
Posted by FatalDragon [send private reply] at May 07, 2002, 09:12:50 PM Well, I actuly got it installed for once, and LiLo worked! But there's no X Windows, but I kinda like it that way for now. I may try Wmaker some time, do you still have to install GNOME or KDE with it? What are the other minimal window managers? I saw about 4 other beside GNOME and KDE, but I dotn think all were window managers.
About the compiler, I think your right, because I was able to run Emacs, and Jed, and I believe both had compile commands.
Thanx for the sujestions!
Posted by gian [send private reply] at May 07, 2002, 10:59:49 PM Gnome and KDE are not window managers... They are a set of libraries and programs that fit in with a window manager.
For Redhat, just choose the "Xwindows" package, but uncheck the KDE and Gnome ones.
Posted by unknown_lamer [send private reply] at May 08, 2002, 09:21:30 AM Windowmaker doesn't quite count as a "basic" wm. It's settings can be tweaked so that it uses around 200 or 300KB of ram, but you can also make it do a lot of nifty stuff like any other windowmanager (see http://unknownlamer.org/art/wmaker-themes.html). For a more minimalist wm, I would suggest pwm or ratpoison.
Posted by Mycroft [send private reply] at May 08, 2002, 05:12:53 PM I wouldn't go with an older distro, I'd go with a low req. up to date version. Maybe one without Xwindows, or you could use a low system req. windows manager and not KDE or Gnome.
Posted by FatalDragon [send private reply] at May 08, 2002, 09:30:40 PM Well, for now Im not going to use X Windows, just the Bash Shell, mainly so I can learn how to operate in that kind of enviroment and learn the various commands. But later I might try using a minimalist window manager.
Posted by unknown_lamer [send private reply] at May 10, 2002, 02:12:50 PM Has you ever looked at how large bash is? Bash on my machine uses 2MB per shell! Eeek. Maybe because I have all of those aliases, functions, variables, and command completion commands (run 'help complete' from withing bash...complete is a very useful tool and Debian sets up a lot of them for you). You might want to try ash instead of bash if you want to go really minimalist (but then you lose nice things like autocomplete).
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