I'm learning to program in C++ right now on my Linux box.. i have Red Hat5.0(i know its old..but i'm getting 7.something soon) anyways..i'm wondering if there is any text editor that COMES WITH the OS besides emacs or maybe a place where i can download a small(under 1.5mb)one? for some reason emacs really bugs me by the way it indents your code for you and doesn't let you code with your own style..anyways if you guys could let me know of some good ones that would be super, thanks,

jay

Emacs ... why not just use it? The only editor that really comes with GNU/Linux is ed (the only editor real men use!) but that isn't really usable :) (you could use cat too, but then you have to rewrite everything every time :). You can always try vim if you want, or use something like Kate (KDE Advanced Text Editor..wait RH5) or gedit (the one in RH5 probably isn't usable though). There are also others like Anjuta ... but you need to upgrade your system for any of them. So I guess the answer is : vim, gedit, anjunta [gah, I can never spell it right], kate, or try a new version of emacs (RH5 probably has emacs 19! 21.2 is out now...it is much different). There are also larger editors like KDE Studio (think VC++ clone) and KDevelop that you might like, as well as glimmer (glimmer.sf.net) or gIDE.

I don't like the way emacs indents either... it's a little screwy if you ask me...

As with all things in Emacs you can customize the indentation styles (depends on mode though). M-x custom and find the C-mode custom section and there should be a variable that lets you change the indentation style (it defaults to GNU). Just hit the apply changes to current session and apply changes to future sessions buttons and your indetation style has been changed.

There's always "pico."

Use nano instead of pico if you must...pico has a very restrictive license.

As entertaining as preaching FSF philosophy is, can we keep it to as little as possible?

Pico is old anyway. Nano has just as many features and has the same interface anyway. There is no reason to not use Nano. Same with mutt vs. pine.

I don't have nano. (RH7.2)

unknown_lamer: Except that most distributions do not come with nano, they come with pico.

/me has never seen a distro with pico.

That includes, mandrake, Debian (2.0->3.0), Slack (7), and Turbo. They all have nano. Why? Because of the pico license they aren't allowed to distribute it, except as a source package (unmodified even). If you have seen a distro with a binary package of pico, they are violating the license. I didn't call the license restrictive without a reason.

I never compiled it.... so I assume it was packaged as a binary.....

Same here. I've had Pico in all the Linux distros I've tried (not a lot differing ones, but quite a lot of versions inside the distros), and I've never compiled it either. Mainly this is Mandrake and RedHat, but I've also seen it on SuSE. Never used Debian, so I don't know about that.

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-07-02-025-21-OP-CY-DB&tbovrm... explains the pine/pico license...basically everyone distributing it is violating the license.

I have ( currently due to problems with Debian , and I think I'll keep it till I get BSD ) RedHat 5.9 and I find it better than 7. You can either use Pico or Joe , pico is a lightweight editor which is extremely powerful and well designed.

-Vlad

/me notes several message discussion about non-free license of pico and nano would be better

there are two that i use in linux. one is vi, it should come with red hat and is command line. i like it cause the commands are so much simpliar than emacs. the other one is nedit, look around to find it. it is just a basic graphical text editor, i like the row numbering feature it has.

-Ares

This thread ended a long time ago...

Funny, it seems you posted to it on the same day on which you said "it ended a long time ago"!

heh. Well, it was active for 2 or 3 days, and then no one posted for 13 days, so except for that small blip at the end, it really was dead!